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http://toronsil.com/technote7/board.php?board=englishdebate&command=body&no=831
Note: Below Adjudication Texts were translated from
English to Spanish by Google Translation.
http://debatewise.org/debates/2255
Mocin:
LA ORIENTACIN SEXUAL DEBE CONSIDERARSE COMO MOTIVO DE
ASILO.
Defending: Mongolia, Opuesto:
Ghana
Decisin del juez: Rose
Helens-Hart
Felicidades
a ambos equipos por avanzar a la segunda ronda. Emit mi voto para la
Proposicin de Mongolia. Despus
de leer los argumentos de cada equipo, concluyo que los GLBT son discriminados
en algunos pases y cuando dichos pases se rehsan a proteger los derechos humanos
de los GLBT y crean leyes que amonestan a sus propios seres que esas personas
deberan tener derecho a buscar asilo. Tres preguntas guiaron mi
decisin:
1. ¿GLBT es un grupo social
perseguido?
Hay
pocas dudas en mi mente sobre si los GLBT son o no discriminados y / o
perseguidos. El
conocimiento comn y la evidencia de la Proposicin pintan una imagen clara de lo
que son. La
oposicin ofrece evidencias contrarias que dicen que los GLBT funcionan bien
(tenga en cuenta que esta evidencia proviene de los EE. UU. ... que tienen leyes
antidiscriminatorias para proteger a los GLBT y otras minoras) pero se niega a
explicar por qu su evidencia debe ser suprema ya que parece contraria
intuitiva. Luego
se contradicen al afirmar que la mayor parte del mundo aborrece los
comportamientos homosexuales.
Prop
no define bien el grupo social, solo afirma que hay muchos GLBT y que han
formado organizaciones. Entonces
asumo que su definicin de grupo social es un grupo de personas que se ha
organizado en torno a un factor comn. Esto
no parece inconsistente con la definicin de Opp de "grupo social". Opp
afirma que los GLBT no son un grupo sino una "clase", pero no dice cul es la
definicin de una clase. Parece
que una clase social sera tan importante como un grupo social y la Proposicin no
necesita demostrar que es un grupo social, sino solo que a ellos tambin se les
debe otorgar asilo para que el ataque de definicin no se
cumpla.
A
lo largo del debate, Opp usa las estadsticas de poblacin de EE. UU. Desde 1980
(¡incluso una desde 1979!). El
Prop y Opp deberan haber examinado la evidencia con ms cuidado ya que estas
fechas perjudican gravemente la credibilidad del Opp. El
comienzo de los 80 en Estados Unidos vio el comienzo del movimiento por los
derechos de los homosexuales, as que estoy seguro de que el nmero o la
identificacin de GLBT ha aumentado a medida que la ley y la sociedad se han
vuelto ms liberales. La
"evidencia deficiente" no afecta mi decisin ya que la Prop no lo ataca por esos
motivos y puede superarlo sin mencionar las fechas publicadas, pero la Opp debe
ser consciente de que las pruebas obsoletas no son un apoyo
slido.
2.
Would asylum benefit GLBTs?
Seems like a
straightforward answer. Yes. Prop could have used more solid evidence of
non-discrimination laws from countries where seekers could go to prove asylum
would provide a better life…but Opp kind of does that for them by giving stats
about how great GLBTs are doing in the US?they are wealthy because they can't
have children(ouch…) and they are college educated. I agree with Opp when they
say that safety cannot be 100% guaranteed but it is reasonable logic to claim
that (as Prop does) that GLBTs would be better protected in a country that
actually attempts to protect them rather than making the way they were born a
crime against the state.
Prop has two
great “slams” on Opp evidence under this particular area. In Opp point 2, they
discover another statistical problem when Opp claims 98% of the world population
opposes GLBTs yet 3.5% are supposed to be “homosexual” themselves. Either Opp is
claiming gays hate themselves or they were not paying close attention to their
evidence and the credibility of their evidence. The other slam comes when Prop
points out that the UK discretion test was overturned and questions the
credibility of blog posters. Opp should be warned again that blogs often provide
biased, lay commentary and are not sources of credible evidence. Wikipedia is
also a questionable source as it can be altered by lay and biased
persons.
3. How would
asylum for this group effect culture?
So, Opp may be
wondering how they could have won this debate without sounding cruel and
bigoted. I think a couple of times they started to sniff out the right trail but
got sucked into the easy, yet offensive arguments such as “Considering this
sexual orientation for asylum will only put innocent individuals such as
children, women and teenagers at risk base on the well known life style of
homosexuals…” Sounds like Opp is really suggesting that HIV infected GLBTs would
molest and rape children, women and teenagers because that is just a part of
their “well known life style”…Anyways, Opp starts to make a couple of
interesting arguments about culture.
1. Could start
a culture war among counties.:
This argument
needed to be developed more. How would telling a country that they do not treat
their GLBTs well be anymore of an act of war than telling them that they do not
treat their political dissidents or ethnic minorities well?
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